I really like these pants for riding around doing errands but I should have bought one size down… my bad but I have difficulty with pants that are sized at 30” and then 32” waist because I’m 31”. So if the pants are stretchy then 30 if not then 32 (sometimes). These pants have good stretch at the waist which I like
I returned them. Bought for cold rides as alt to Lycra tights. Way to thin.